BBC Radio Interview with Andrei Piankovski, 20.01.1991
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Andrei Piankovski, Spokesman for the Democratic Russia Movement on The World Today, BBC Radio 4, Sunday 20.01.1991

Why is Yeltsin now totally hostile to the Soviet President ?
Massacre was committed in Lithuania and now we have in the Kremlin an unrepentant murderer. The Nobel peace prize winner failed to even condemn the atrocity committed by his paratroopers.

And Mr. Yeltsin blames Mr. Gorbachev personally ?
Certainly, he is commander-in-chief and he is president. He is responsible and he showed an extraordinary absence of elementary moral sensitivity to the victims and to what had happened.

So what are you asking should happen ? Isn't it very dangerous to simply make calls which could lead to further confrontaion if there isn't something positive to suggest which should happen ?
Only one thing is possible now, that president murderer must resign immediately. It is the demand of all decent people in Russia.

Looking at the constitutional position, one understands Mr Yeltsin's case for the independent rights of the constituent republics in the Soviet Union, but the relationship with the centre is not yet worked out - isn't it dangerous to pull the house down before you put a new roof to build over it ?
It's the only way to save the Union, to conclude a new Union treaty on the basis of independence of republics which will decide voluntarily which functions they are ready to delegate to all Union authorities. There is no problem between Russia and Lithuania. There is a problem between peoples of all the countries and the authoritarian communist regime.

Gorbachev's duty as Soviet president and that of his armed forces, as that of every president - to protect the integrity of the State ?
He is just destroying the integrity of the state by slaughtering innocent civilians in Tblisi, Baku and Vilnius.

What contribution can the Russian parliament make tomorrow, apart from raising the temperature still further ?
Well, I think that the Russian parliament will demand the resignation of President Gorbachev. In the case if Gorbachev will refuse to resign, Russia will stop all financial contribution to the Union budget, and parliament support the actual appeal of Yeltsin to mutiny, appeal to Russian soldiers not to obey criminal orders of their commanders.

That is really the big break, if you refuse to pay money into the centre and ask for mutiny by soldiers. This really is asking for THE showdown with the Kremlin.
Yes, this is the real showdown, and the alternative is to submit ourselves to the fascist dictatorship.

Yeltsin didn't appear at today's rally for what he called security reasons - was it really for security reasons, and what were they ?
Well, there have been several attempts of assassination in the last two years, and I think now there will be more such attempts.


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